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If you’re interested in politics and a regular user of YouTube, you’ve probably had the misfortune of coming across a video by the ‘Young Turks’ (or ‘YT’ as they now confidently abbreviate themselves).
The ‘Turks’ in question are real Turks by the way (quite an odd sentence, I know). The Lead man (and focus of this post) Cenk Uygur was born in Istanbul and moved with his family to the US as a child. According to Forbes, Uygur was once a fairly standard aspirational-minority Republican (Cuban and Iranian-Americans having provided the model for this), but later shifted after graduating University into the annoying ‘progressive’ more familiar to us.
In 2002, Uygur created the Young Turks internet show; intended no doubt to provide a rival to The Daily Show, then gaining fast in national popularity. That comparison stops at the intention… Jon Stewart, love him or not, is often a funny guy. The videos put out by the YT crowd are….well, not.
In case you don’t know what Cenk Uygur is like to listen to (lucky you!), try to imagine Bill Maher, but with all the humour, charisma, stage presence and wit completely subtracted.
Standard procedure on a YT podcast is for Cenk to show a clip of some intellectual colossus of the political right (the frail and eccentric Pat Robertson for example…) and then snigger righteously into the camera, drawing attention to self-evident flaws, and obvious excess. In many ways, Uygur is a political equivalent of those brave atheists who specialize in critiquing the claims of Scientology. Large arrows. Soft targets.
Still, a lack of humour and/or daring affects many decent people the world over. This alone doesn’t provide a reason to dislike Uygur, let alone describe him (as I’m going to) as ‘sinister’.
What frankly is sinister (and I’m far from the first to point this out) is the very name he chose for the show.
As you’ll be aware, educated reader, the ‘Young Turks’ of the former Ottoman Empire were – while nominally ‘secular’ – instrumental in the mass-slaughter of unarmed Armenian Christians during the diplomatic fog of the first World War. So great was there culpability that even Ataturk himself condemned them for their brutality (and he was hardly a liberal of the kind Uygur now so eagerly waits upon).
But perhaps this is simply consistent with the YT front-man’s real politics.
Mr Uygur, long before his ascension to national renown, made a point of denying that the genocide of the Armenians took place at all, and currently (no doubt encouraged by many a fluttering greenback) only accepts that sporadic acts of violence (intensity unspecified) occurred during the dissolution of the Ottoman system. ‘
Violence? Sorry Cenk, but a million dead Christians in a Muslim empire requires a slightly more detailed explanation.
Why exactly is Cenk so reluctant to do the decent thing here? The consensus on the genocide of the Armenians has already been drafted. He need only initial it. But he doesn’t…
Here’s what I think:
Cenk Uygur is not a ‘liberal’ by nature, or by belief. He is rather a liberal by profession. He has chosen to become a liberal in the same way as someone else might choose to become a plumber or a welder. It’s an occupation, and – in America – a most rewarding one. Deep down however, Uygur remains entirely committed to the myths of Turkish Nationalism.
In regards to the religion of his upbringing, Cenk has only declared a partial apostasy, now self-identifying as an agnostic. Revealingly, this is also the position of most Turkish Nationalists: One foot in the East, another in the West, never fully committing to either; strategic ambiguity.
Under the regime of Tacip Erdogan, the Republic of Turkey seems to be ending its long experiment with Westernisation. As it does so, keep an eye on those who still straddle the divide, and be careful what you believe from them.
D, LDN.
A hyena never ( cannot ) changes it’s spots.
Political correctness in the west has allowed Muslim ‘hyenas’ to infiltrate via deception.
They wait patiently for the right moment.
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Mr Reality the reality is you are an extreme racist. To some extent all people grow up being prejudiced if they are honest with themselves. When one acknowledges this and attempts to free oneself of prejudice one still finds it a massively difficult task. It would appear you celebrate your racism. Brother you are lucky that there are not many who are like you or this world would be even more of a hellhole than it is.
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Muslim is not a race. So you can’t claim he’s racist based on ill will towards muslims. Bigotry? Yes. Hell yes. Racism? No. Read the dictionary before you say stupid shit.
Also, for your information, Islam as an ideology is not free from criticism, so before you take a point to try and paint anyone critical of Islam as some kind of bigot (or in your incredibly asinine view: Racist) understand that someone criticising Islam is not the same as someone generalizing a whole swath of people (Muslims).
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Hi David,
Love your blog in general; very literate, very needed.
I too discovered the YT recently and the alarm bells went off enough for me to research the Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire- so refreshing to hear that my disquiet is not just my own.
By the way, the EU apparently approved in principle Schengen free movement (without visas) of Turkish citizens by 2016 the other day.
Best wishes in our CJ,
J
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Really? The EU goes down in my estimation every day.
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hi did not know they could work and live in Europe in 2016 hopefully , enough people well turn against the EU in the coming month and years to change things. As it is there is no jobs in Europe for the natives soon there well be non there .
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Sorry, eloquent was the word I was searching for- of course you are literate!
J
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This article on the Young Turks is the most insightful analysis of this obnoxious show that I have seen. I completely agree with everything you have written. Cenk Uygur is indeed sinister as you say for the reasons you point out and your comparison of his apparent dual political leanings to the Turkish syndrome is brilliant. Thank you. I think I’ll read it again — it was so good to see all of my negative feelings about him and his show articulated in such a perceptive and brilliant way.
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Thank you for the kind words. It’s a shame that he’s become so popular, even being hired by MSNBC at one point. I wonder if they’d hire someone who denied that slavery happened.
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By the way, it is only because his young audience is so ignorant of history that he has not been criticized for using the term “Young Turks.” If Uygur hailed from Germany, would he call his show, “The Brown Shirts” ? If he and his family were from Russsia would he think of himself as “The Young Kossack”? I remember the ridiculous comment he made when Egyptian army threw out Morsi. He congratulated them and said basically that it was an act of true democracy by the Egyptian people. Morsi was a disgusting thug (enabled by the U.S. President Obama) but his ouster was just another act of political thuggery and tribal warfare which had less to do with ending Sharia law (which 70% of Egyptians favor) and more to do with protecting the interests of the Egyptian army. Anything even slightly resembling democracy in the Arab world is a joke. Uygur’s asinine an ridiculous comments sounded like someone reading from a script written by Senator John McCain or Vice President Biden — two senile old men who should be playing checkers in as assisted living facility somewhere in South Florida.
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Thanks for the good writeup. It in fact used to be a entertainment account it.
Look advanced to more delivered agreeable
from you! By the way, how can we keep in touch?
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I always knew that Cenk Uygur was a fraud. He tries too hard. You can tell it’s just an act. He makes statements backed only by emotion and that phony laugh of his. It really bothers me that he wrote for the Daily Pennsylvanian that the Armenian Genocide was a falsehood. He also wrote in Salon about it also. He names his company and show after genocidal murders. He is trying to sanitize history. Never forget, it’s the only way to prevent it from happening again and again. It’s like naming your show after the Nazi SS. Google his denial and you will find that in 2014 he gave a speech were he mentions that Armenians are upset with the name of his show, yet refuses to change the name of his show. Condoning grave evil will only encourage it to happen again. Remember the saying, they came for the gypsies and I did nothing, then they came for the trade unionists and I did nothing, then they came for the communists and I did nothing, then they came for the Jews and I did nothing, then they came for me and there was no one left to help me. I call for Cenk Uygur to see the historical photos of the Armenian Genocide and stop denying that the Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire were responsible for mass murder of a race. I call for Cenk Uygur to change the name of his show to anything but The Young Turks or the Nazi SS. The only thing that evil needs to prosper is for good people to do nothing.
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Be nice to shut him down completely
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We can shut him down by exposing his abhorrent connections. Too few people know about the original ‘Young Turks’.
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Yes I can’t say I am that happy about Cenk but I don’t just jump to stereotyping him in the way you do. Try to see each person as an individual rather than always as part of a group. The truth is we are all individuals but hide behind the masks of group membership. As regards the Amernian genocide unfortunately we cannot undo what happened there. Nor can we undo the Nazi Holocaust. But we can stop the current genocide occurring in Gaza now. To that I suggest you and everyone else pay their attention. btw Jews who grew up in apartheid in South Africa are reckoning that what Israel is doing is even worse.
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You are an ignorant moron. Genocide in gaza? You understand WHAT a genocide entails, right? Gaza is the whole reason a two state solution can never work. At least not as long as hamas, the psychopaths who won one election and then murdered the opposition, are in charge. Israel handed over gaza and it is now used as a vantage point with which to mercilessly and constantly attack israel and its citizens. You want to know why the death toll is so much higher on the palestinian side? Its because israel takes the safety of its citizens very seriously. They build bomb shelters. Hamas uses children to build terror tunnels to attack the israelis at a cost of millions that could be used to take care of the palestinian people. But no.
You want to blame somebody for the much higher percentage of palestinian casualties? (Still not genocide btw), then blame hamas for actively PUTTING its civilians in harms way. Firing rockets daily from civilian homes, and un schools and hospitals.
I have to also wonder why liberals hate israel so much merely for defending itself from DAILY attacks. Are you aware that far more palestinians were dispaced by egypt during the 6 day war than have ever been dispaced by israel in 60 years?
Are you aware that israel has given back 90% of land they won during that 6 day war? Israeli children are taught to love and respect everyone and that one day there WILL be peace. Palestinian childrens tv however, tells them they should murder jews like cattle. That martyrdom is somehow noble.
Of course you’re ignorant of such things. I see you throwing around labels like racist because somebody comments about muslims. You are aware islam is NOT a race, surely? If somebody made derogatory remarks about christians would you also call them racist? Are you aware there are white muslims? Are you aware there are israeli muslims? Does that not make you as ‘racist’ as you are antisemetic?
If a single jewish south african who had witnessed the horrors of the apartheid even remotely saw a similarity between that and israel they are clearly even more moronic than you. Apartheid can be seen in varying degrees all over the muslim world. Israel has civil rights for all. Palestine barely has human rights. And guess what? That has NOTHING to do with israel. You know so much about the armenian genocide that it is pretty appalling that you are so damn clueless on israel. I think i have made my point
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Complete and racist bullshit
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I disagree.
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I think he means the attack on israel
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Unless you meant Mr Uygur.
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THIS IS BS!!
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Cenk has flip flopped on the Armenian genocide (he’s done a 180 twice). Either his home country scared him or he got bought off as you said. I saw an old video of his and his show was playing angry voice messages and one alluded to the name of his show and his response was like, “whatever. fuck off, you pleb.” He just does not care about how the name of his show is offensive. There’d have to be a massive campaign to make him change the name of his show. There’s more info about his flip flops here:https://someinconvenientfacts.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/cenk-uygurs-armenian-genocide-controversy-3/
Then you have Ana Kasparian who’s 100% Armenian and born in the U.s.A and she said she was skeptical about the name of the show but she loved the show and loves working there. Many in the Armenian community have given Ana grief about how she works for a show with that name and how her boss is an Armenian genocide denier. She’ll never address any of those things. There’s more info about it here:https://someinconvenientfacts.wordpress.com/2015/08/05/ana-kasparian-is-a-piece-of-work-and-has-a-big-ego/
The real sad part is that TYT fans are so devout and blinded by love that many have told me they don’t care about the ARmenian genocide. ??? The Left media wont cover this story either. They see Cenk as on their team so they wont dare expose him. Cenk also has been lying about Sam Harris for almost 10 months. He’s been doing a real smear campaign against Harris. His show has gotten so many stories wrong but their devout fans dont care. I think about 40% or more of their viewers just watch the show to laugh at. People call is the Left Fox news now. I wish Harris would sue Cenk for slander, but I guess he doesn’t want to do that. The arrogance of that show is stunning and they can be so stupid and blinded so much of the time.
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Cenk is a scumbag. I understand what he’s doing. Money and power are very appealing to amoral people. Ms Kasparian should be ashamed of herself.
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I have had the misfortune of coming across ugyer,basically he is a muslim terror apologist,trawling up 50 year old stories of christian terror,and has an extreme ego,even naming his son Prometheus Maximus.He is also very racist towards whites and is a race baiter,always trying to anger blacks to committ acts of violence on whites.Basically an extremely unpleasant individual
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And a fraud too. He’s a truly horrid creature.
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Cenk Uygur has also made it his moral duty to badmouth, discredit & ridicule, each & every speech or comment made by Donald J. Trump, (although I can’t imagine why). Uygur is using the power of his young Turk-ey’s to do everything he can to squash Donald Trumps bid to improve this great nation, (And I honestly believe he will try harder than any president, EVER, if elected). We, many people born in this country, what can WE do to silence Uygur? I feel that should be a concern.
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I think it’s best to ignore him. Most intelligent people don’t believe a word he says.
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