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Do the Palestinians Want Palestine or Israel?

22 Tuesday Jul 2014

Posted by Defend the Modern World in Israel, Multiculturalism, Muslims, Politics, Terrorism, Uncategorized, Zionism

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“Man can do what he wills but he cannot choose what he wills.” – Schopenhauer.

So, another war is raging between the Jews of Israel and the Arabs of Gaza.

We know the routine from here. When the guns eventually fall silent and the silos close, Western elites will pontificate to Israel as if they themselves were virgins to violence; the UN will achieve nothing at a furious pace; Hamas meanwhile will probably claim a strategic ‘victory’ and won’t – I suppose – be wholly unjustified in doing so.

It seems the Israelis have once again been suckered into a publicity nightmare for zero strategic gain. Only a concerted effort to topple Hamas will prevent rockets being fired into Israel. Hamas knows this, and starts these wars on purpose, daring Israel to make a move. Israel also knows this, or should do by now.

But I don’t want to talk at length about this current dispute. Rather let’s use the occasion to broaden our view and ask a question about the fundamental clash of interests underlying this cycle of violence.

The standard view of the Israel-Palestine conflict (or that upheld by the UN and Western public opinion) is that it involves a claim by two peoples to the same territory. The troubles of the region originate from this simple contest, and are only later exacerbated by religious belief.

The radical or revisionist view of the conflict claims it is the other way around. The territory is secondary and religion (in particular Islam) motivates most of the violence.

A third view, and one I’d like to advance today, considers the economic factors of the divide and proposes that the advocates of at least one of the competing peoples are purposely deluding themselves.

Anyone who has read or studied basic psychology will be well-placed to judge the capacity human beings have for self-deceit, and that the thing one ‘wants’ is not necessarily what one claims to want or even what one wishes to want. If a problem-drinker, for example, goes to the corner shop for a bottle of gin, he may sincerely believe along the way that he is going to buy a newspaper. The human mind is so fallible that it can be manipulated even by itself.

In this context, consider this: Do the Palestinians really want ‘Palestine’ with its olive groves, rolling hills and ancient alleyways? Or do they in fact desire Israel, with its shopping malls, freedom and high standard of living?

It’s surprising how rarely this question is put to the world, and tragic too, since it can illuminate a hidden simplicity behind a seemingly complicated problem.

Given its strategic urgency, there have been innumerable remedies suggested for the Israel-Palestine conflict over the previous few decades, from the UN-backed ‘return to 1967 borders’, through the ‘Arab peace plan’ sponsored by Saudi Arabia, to the ‘three-state solution’, to the US ‘Roadmap’, to the most recent Lieberman Plan.

The last of these is most relevant to the context we have set ourselves.

The ‘Lieberman plan’ – named after its author Avigdor Lieberman, leader of the nationalist Yisrael Beiteinu party – suggests that a two state solution include the exchange of the Arab-populated areas of Israel for the Jewish populated areas of the West Bank, thus avoiding the need for a population ‘transfer’.

According to this plan, the Galilee region of Northern Israel would be attached to the bloc of West Bank inhabited by Palestinians. The Israeli Arabs in the area of Israel to be detached would lose their Israeli citizenship and become citizens of Palestine instead. The Jewish settlements of the West Bank would be attached to Israel proper. A Jewish majority in Israel would thus be assured, and the ‘problem’ of Jews on the West Bank would be solved at a stroke.

Personally, I don’t think this idea is workable in practice, but the reaction the policy has provoked is almost worth the effort put into proposing it.

The Arab citizens of Israel have branded the plan philosophically ‘racist’ and morally outrageous. The Palestinian establishment outside of Israel’s borders has also condemned the plan, presenting a claim of native descent specifically to the land currently tended to by the Jews, and re-stating a commitment to the return of refugees to towns within the same territory.

Let’s be clear. If, as it is routinely claimed, the Palestinians merely want a state of their own, the Lieberman plan should be sweetly palatable to them. It delivers immediately the state they claim to crave, and even supplies the Palestinian people with a social unity they have arguably never before experienced. Hamas in particular would get its wish of a Judenrein Islamic state, emptied of democracy, development and dirty Kuffar. The PA would be given full political sovereignty over its own citizens. What is there to object to?

The answer can only be that it leaves a highly developed, wealthy and democratic society living next door to them. This society and its high level of living is what is craved, and only by its destruction or infiltration can the Palestinian blood-lust be satisfied.

It has been well noted by travellers for many centuries that Islamic countries tend – almost without exception – to be dirt-piles. Places where nobody of depth or youthfulness could happily spend a week. Why then did any Leftist imagine Gaza could turn out differently?

For years, the PA and its Western cheerleaders squealed for the liberation of that strip of coastline. Now they have it and the rockets never stop coming.

Is that really due to those IDF troops calmly patrolling the other side of the border? Or does it actually involve those skyscrapers towering in the far distance, tortuously superior and forever out of reach?

In some dusty and eccentric corner of the Palestinian mind, does the thought arise that those sparkling buildings are the natural fruit of the territory, and not the work of those who have settled it? Do they imagine that they would be enjoying that same prosperity had the Jews never returned?

I don’t believe the Palestinians will ever be satisfied with gifts of land, however extravagant. There are countless states they could relocate to, and if it really was peace they craved, they would already be in them. But that is not and was never the point. They have glimpsed a better life through a forest of watchtowers and cannot now forget it.

D, LDN.

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Wake-Up Call for Mr London: Why the ‘Muslim Patrols’ are welcome news.

29 Tuesday Jan 2013

Posted by Defend the Modern World in Anti-Modernism, Eurabia, Islamisation of the West, Multiculturalism, Muslims, Politics

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“I’m actually in favour of immigration, but not Muslim immigration. I just don’t think we have to let in people who are hostile to modernity.”

“They’re not. It’s just some who let the side down. Most of them want to escape their religion by coming here.”

This kind of dialogue should be pretty familiar to anyone residing in London, or any other great Western city. The conversation – regarding the suitability of Muslim residence in the non-Muslim world – almost always ends in a polite stalemate – neither side having budged, and with no-one having benefited.

This is understandable enough, I suppose, since the misunderstanding behind the latter statement is acute and based in a wholly alternate reality. Those who believe it almost certainly reside in areas with little or no Muslim presence. These are people – whose troop includes some of my closest friends – who believe that the Muslims walking around London they do see, draped in religious clothing and sporting veils and beards, are doing so for the same reasons as a Chelsea hipster wears an African skirt; harmless ‘identity-fashion’ in other words, or the means to make an edgy but non-political ‘cultural statement’.

Beneath that garb, they generously imagine, the Muslims are actually perfectly modern, if not slightly postmodern. They are just like you and me. All of that talk of hellfire and infidels is no more threatening or sincere than the trend for retro haircuts in Camden suggests a longing for the conservatism of the 1950s. They do it just to remember where their ancestors came from, but other than that, they couldn’t care less about who runs the country, or along which culture’s lines..

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Wait for it….  These people are wrong.

We in the activist community have read well enough to know this is liberal thinking at its most uninformed. Muslims do not come to London to become British any more than the English puritans sailed to America to become Cherokee. They are coming rather to ‘improve’ what they see as a decrepit and worn-out civilisation, and carry with them a solution to our moral malaise so horrible and certain-of-itself that we must either banish it wholly or submit to it in full. 

Reflecting on this earlier today, I was actually quite thrilled to read of the so-called ‘Muslim Patrols’ that are reported to be stalking East and North London. In case you haven’t read or heard about it, these are groups of Saudi-style morality-police composed mainly of unemployed volunteers, who are going around the area late-at-night snatching alcohol from passers by and shouting misogynist abuse at scantily dressed women.

It would take a quite fanatical devotee of conventional wisdom to write this off as a joke, or as some kind of post-modern performance art (though you can be sure there will be some who claim something like that).

In reality, what we have here is a community absolutely dead-set on eventual power displaying its impatience.

And don’t say it wasn’t inevitable. Everything within these people yearns for a supremacism to match their sense of superiority. Since they imagine themselves to be on the side of the Almighty, the fact that they are living in social squalor, whilst the Jews, Capitalists and homosexuals they despise live in happy plenty must be a constant headache. The need to bring a balance between what they think of themselves and the world as it actually is will compel these people to seek ever-greater influence over our lives until we do something to stop them.

Christopher Hitchens wrote that Bin Laden did the West a ‘huge favour’ on 9/11 by warning its governments and people of the building current of hatred in the Middle East. Such a warning saved the West many years of head-in-the-sand serenity before the chickens really starting coming home and made time for adequate preparation.

I would say that the ‘Sharia patrols’ currently in London are – in the same way – doing more good than bad for our chances as a civilisation. An early warning of a future unbefitting of London’s past.

D, LDN.

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