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- First published on this blog in January, 2016
The presence of Islam in 21st century Britain is no more natural or inevitable than the presence of Sikhism in Chile. It’s worth repeating this fact whenever possible or appropriate. This is because many fake liberals continue to push the argument that Islamophobes such as you or I are somehow unworldly, retrograde, or unrealistic for opposing Muslim settlement in the contemporary West.
Some commentators go even further, saying that far from being a new and foreign element in our society, Islam is a traditional part of Europe, citing irrelevant factors like the antique conurbations of Muslim Sicily, Malta or Andalucía. Islamic influence, they claim, can be found in Europe’s system of law, code of social ethics, philosophy, medicine, architecture and geography. Given that this is so, why shouldn’t Muslim Pakistanis, Turks or Arabs live in present-day Leeds or Stockholm? They are as responsible for the greatness of these places as the natives…right?
No. Not right at all. It is certainly true that Islam’s Andalusian Golden age imparted a great number of ideas to European elites, many of which are now claimed as entirely and originally European. However, such contributions were mostly limited to disciplines of what we would now call ‘academia’ and in-any-case are dwarfed many times over by the influence of European ideas on Muslim civilisation. Do Europeans have the moral right to settle in Muslim countries on that basis? No, of course they don’t. And vice versa.
Leftists like to push the myth of European-Islamic co-development for one reason above all; they think it will normalise the presence of Islam in Europe and erase the memory of a Europe without Islam. For if the Muslim presence in Europe can be made to seem normal, traditional or ancient, objections to it will naturally seem irrational, unreasonable and unrealistic.
Another way the same effect can be achieved is via the media, and especially the screen media. Over Christmas, like most Britons, I found myself slouched in front of the television for extended periods of time. During that time I witnessed an astonishing barrage of British Islamic subject matter. There was the Citizen Khan Christmas special on BBC One (Note: CK is a woefully unfunny Muslim sitcom). There were the quiz shows with a disproportionate number of Muslim contestants, many of whom wore Hijabs or prayer caps. There was Eastenders – perhaps the most popular show in Britain today – with gripping plotlines involving characters called Shabnam, Kush, Tamwar, Masood, Fatima, Kamil and Ali. National (and even more so) local newsreaders and weathermen/girls were disproportionately Muslim. And so on. Over time, this normalises something abnormal; the slow bleed of east into west; the merging of two contraries into a single untenable consensus.
This is new. This is unnatural. And this is not something we should be tolerating.
D, LDN
Defend the Modern World 
agree with all of this, but something else strikes me. You would think that there are no ethnic minorities in Britain who are non Muslim. Islam and Muslims are being shoved down our throat constantly, the most dysfunctional and aggressive, belligerent and hostile minority in the history of our country, whilst relatively integrating, peaceful, tolerant minority communities are marginalised further. Islam is a monster, eating everything, even other minorities.
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Very true. This is why it’s important to stand shoulder to shoulder with peaceful minorities and let it be known that they are not the problem.
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Very true – jews and sikhs do not get anywhere near as much promotion in the media – there is currently an onslaught at the moment which makes one wonder what exactly the agenda is.
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I truly recommend you read “Muhammad & Charlemagne – revisited” by Emmet Scott.
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Thanks. I’ll look it up.
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I agree totally. Realistically though it seems to me that the only hope of reversing this pernicious tide lies with the Muslims themselves. If many or most of them simply refuse to integrate and if the younger generation of Muslims turns towards conservative versions of their faith then the integrationist dreams of the liberal left will simply crumble. The leftist project of integrating Islam with Western culture is essentially unrealistic and hopefully, as time goes by, the sheer absurdity of this project will become too obvious for most people to ignore.
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Indeed. The Muslims themselves will start to integrate when they are given motivation to do so by the state. At the moment they have no reason to behave or to moderate their pieties. We tolerate them whatever they do.
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I agree with almost all the commentary… But I have a distinct suspicion that most of us voicing our agreement with ourselves here share an internationalist background and couldn’t care less for trendy populist PC nonsense. If I’m even slightly correct in my commentary analysis, most of us come from far from “normal” upbringings and have zero tolerance for care bear politics, the problem we have is that if we even dare to think our politics out loud we’ll be classified as jingoistic xenophobes despite whatever our physical appearance may be (black white Indian green Inuit pygmie etc)….it doesn’t make a difference…if u say I kinda like Europe to be Christian even if ur a heathan disgrace like sister Mary Francis is convinced I am, we are all anti immigration fascists that want every Muslim behind bars or a water soaked under a towel no matter what we say…which I hobeatly don’t believe to be true…but who knows, maybe I’m wrong….but I hope not
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If people label us as xenophobes, we must explain convincingly that we are not xenophobes. More and more people are waking up to our position on this. Read the comments underneath articles about Islam on the (left-wing) Guardian website. There is cause for real optimism there.
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As dark skinned guy from Germany with less than fond memories of my catholic upbringing and even less fond memories/realities wondering what the hell happened to my country and continent whilst I was away being liberalized in the american north east…I often wonder about where the Moorish hordes are staging their next forward thrust into my continent. That being said, i disapprove of the intellectually slothfulness of self styled “islamofacist” biggots that seem to be popping up everywhere. Yes, I meant selfstyled, to anyone reading this that fits into that general categorization, I’m talking to you. Most of us just hate you. Not your politics. I don’t hate Muslims (but anyone thinking they are gonna turn my home/culture into the new caliphate have got another thing coming) but you will dismissed along with any “cultural warriors” who think they can disguise their obvious racism as “European defense”…you’re not fooling anyone, you and the isis assholes totally deserve each other as far I’m concerned….enjoy your delusional struggle for righteous superiority….alone.
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I completely agree. Neo-Nazis and ISIS are one and the same. We must find a way to oppose them both.
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Such as what? These assclowns have already won the PR battle of convincing everyone that anti-islamist = fascist without bothering with minor details like Islam is NOT Islamism…and that there are as many shity Christians as there shitty Muslims…..it’s vexing to me that the same individuals that brought humanity out of the crappy dark ages of idiomatic backwardness and ignorance into the age of science and enlightenment somehow managed to not only reverse their great accomplishments for humanity in general but straight polarity shift social development into a march toward barbarism and retro- scientific social dissolution and human antigenesis…it’s truly unbelievable if u think about it….
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Aggressive Liberalism is the answer. Liberalism in its true form is the best counter-attack against Leftism, Fascism and Islamism. We must insist on complete personal, sexual and cultural freedom, and oppose any force that pledges to abolish these liberties.
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I understand that the present climate is confused, and that people are confusing one thing for another, but this can change with the right amount effort. Pim Fortuyn had the right idea.
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I agree with your sentiment too…it is fascinating that in my lifetime, we have seen (at least outside of the United States) a total departure from christianity by the liberal classes in the West. At the same time, we have seen a pseudo respect form for Islam in the very same regions by, duh, the same people. We now find ourselves in a place where it is perfectly okay to offend christians of all stripes, yet not Islam…
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Did you see Richard Dawkins recent comment? He said that he is reconsidering his views on Christianity and the Anglican Church in Britain because it may turn out to be a bulwark against something much worse. If even Dawkins is seeing this, we all need to see it. And I think millions are starting to feel that way. They just need to feel they won’t be stigmatised or harmed for articulating what they feel. I think we are edging towards that.
An Anglican church that believed in itself would be a revived church that met the needs of people in a time when they want a hand to hold in the face of Islam.
Also, whilst there is still a long way to go, seems to me the Tories and Cameron are genuinely moving in the right direction with their report on the Muslim Brotherhood and other things they are doing.
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No, I didn’t see that comment. It would be fascinating to see Dawkins come around to Christian cultural-preservation. Do you have a link to his comments?
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Here:
I’m an atheist, but I have affection for Anglicanism and view it as a bulwark to preservation of our civilisation against Islam provided it can reach out and regain its unapologetic evangelism. Imagine Michael Nazir Ali as Archbishop of Canterbury?
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My father (a retired Rector) is firmly on the centre-right of the Anglican community. Nazir-Ali is further to the right, but still a pretty agreeable fellow. He might be too socially conservative for some.
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More details. It seems the quote comes from 2010, but he said it nonetheless
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/01/12/professional-atheist-dawkins-says-christianity-bulwark-against-something-worse/
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Thank you. Very interesting. It’s about time he rethought his stance on Christianity.
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Hi, great website, very interesting articles.
What is also worrying actually is that all of this is happening not only in the UK, but all through Europe, and even in America and Austalia. Everywhere in the western world the same questions and problems are raised by muslims.
In relation to that article, did you ever hear about a book called “Aristote au Mont-Saint-Michel”, which was written by french historian Sylvain Gouguenheim? It was published in 2008 and basically and very seriously significantly downplays the supposed role and importance of Islam in the development of Europe. Needless to say the backlash against that book was immediate, with the usual and now well known and all too foreseeable arguments.
Mind you, you wouldn’t want to offend muslims so you’ll say anything that glorifies them, even if it’s not true. Soon we’ll probably be made to believe that muslims were essential to the foundation of America and that they’ve enlightened the whole world for centuries.
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“Soon we’ll probably be made to believe that muslims were essential to the foundation of America and that they’ve enlightened the whole world for centuries.”
haha, yeah, when the American pre-university educational system becomes second to none maybe.
Islam DID enlighten the modern world (scientifically for 50 years that resulted in medicine and contemporary mathematics). America’s founding fathers enlightened the world politically (trickle down economics, monroe doctrine, etc and spread that little gem to places that DC now considers enemies because those countries were adept pupils). The Muslims were adapting their religious fundamentals into the pillars of contemporary barbarism while their accomplishments fell by the wayside at the same time that the US was deconstructing all the efforts made by the Greeks and teaching the world that your banker is more important than your elementary school teacher.
You think anyone is innocent in all this great bullfuckery of the human species as a whole??!! Think again.
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Hi, just wanted to clarify my post. I was just giving that “foundation of America by muslims” as an exaggerated fictional example of the kind of theories we get when we let the multiculturalists extremists rewrite history to fit their own ideology and try and get everyone to believe their crap.
About the pre-university educational system: that’s where we may start to get another serious problem these days actually. It’s getting more and more documented that the multicultural ideology as an excuse for everything, especially when it comes to islam, is finding its way into that system, and not just in America.
There’s been much debate recently in France over attempts to introduce studies of islam, slavery and colonialism (to the detriment of the western world obviously) into early educational stages. That probably was another biased attempt at appeasing social and religious troubles by misrepresenting the truth.
If young people’s heads are getting shut down very early to any form of criticism, we’re in for a hell of a ride. People should be able to publicly express any fear or question about islam, without being instantly targeted as a fascist or a racist.
Instead, we’re being told to shut up and smile, and if children are to be taught this at an early age, then that’s a tragedy. People must be able to question the world freely.
I’m not really sure islam did enlighten the world. This is subject to much controversy and I don’t know enough about it to have any definitive point of view.
I guess that if islam had had any strong cultural impact on Europe in its historical development, well we would actually all be much more aware of it, wouldn’t we? Also, if that was so true, then the newly arrived muslim culture wouldn’t seem so far away from ours, making those integration questions a minor point.
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Also – the only Western country on which Muslims had a profound influence (Spain) celebrates the date in which the Muslims were expelled. Says it all really.
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I didn’t know that, that’s interesting indeed. As far as I can remember from history lessons though the last time we were confronted with the muslim culture in Europe, we were quite glad to see them go.
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“Soon we’ll probably be made to believe that muslims were essential to the foundation of America and that they’ve enlightened the whole world for centuries.”
And there we go. I’ve just found this.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/20/obama-islam-woven-into-the-fabric-of-our-country-since-founding/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/03/obama-visits-mosque-islam-has-always-been-part-of-america/
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Thank you, Rob. I haven’t heard of the work you reference but will certainly look it up. The Muslim Golden Age and its relationship to the European enlightenment is vastly overstated, usually deliberately. Academia is very corrupt these days. Most scholars are ideologues.
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You’re welcome.
Those self proclaimed elites either blindly believe their multicultural crap, or they are trying to find easy ways to answer the ever growing demands of the muslim community and the problems that they cause.
I find it extremely dangerous that in their approach to contemporary problems, they have a tendancy to rewrite history. They probably think it’s gonna appease the troublemakers, when in fact it only strengthens them, giving them the very opportunistic feeling that they’re entitled to everything.
I’m not a specialist, but my guess is since we can’t give much credit to the muslim world for anything, well, we basically have to make it all up.
I remember reading an article giving a very detailed account of how most of the things islam allegedly brought to the world (mathematics, medicine, and so on) were in fact mostly stolen by islam from other cultures. I can’t remember exactly where that article was from though.
The problem is some people will believe it and fall deeper into the actual shaming of the western world.
As if we needed more of this.
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It’s also worth noting that the most productive periods in Muslim history (Moorish Andalucía and 7-10th century Persia) were marked by religious pluralism and lax adherence to the Sharia. The Islamic Golden Age was un-Islamic. .
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Thanks for letting us know about this book. I found two reviews in English
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3732
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/world/europe/28iht-politicus.2.12398698.html
It does not seem to have been translated into English, shamefully. Because if we do not translate works like this, the prevailing lies and paradigms promoted by our multiculturalist elites will prevail. It sounds like a superb work, a vital work, and I wish I could read it
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You’re welcome. Thank you too, those reviews were quite interesting too.
France isn’t immune to those multicultural “elites” : the french mainstream media didn’t take much time to discuss the matter. I’ve just looked up on youtube and there are only three videos with Sylvain Gougenheim, and they’re not even about this controversial booK.
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Speaking about books and writers, do people over here know about french writer Renaud Camus?
He’s mostly known for his theory about the “great replacement”. Basically, according to him, what’s taking place in Europe is the replacement of indigenous European people by other people from a very different cultural background (we all know which one).
There’s an excerpt of one of his speeches that’s availabe on youtube with english subtitles.
Also, a link to his english wikipedia page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaud_Camus
If you google “Renaud Camus Great Replacement” you’ll probably find more web pages in english about him.
He’s been warning and speaking up about this for years. Needless to say he was completely ostracized from the mainstream media.
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It helps that he’s gay. No-one can accuse him of being irrational in his fear of Islam.
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Well not really actually. He was celebrated by lefties when he wrote about his gay life, but as soon as he started talking about the great replacement, he was automatically ostracized. You don’t see him on mainstream TV shows, and when people talk about him, it’s always in a negative way (he’s supposed to be a paranoid racist obviously). His detractors actually use the gay thing against him : “how can you say that kind of racist things when you are actually different too?”. Which is pretty vicious and superficial in itself : I don’t know why gay people should automatically be 100% for uncontrolled mass immigration.
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You might find it interesting to read the book “The Imam’s Daughter” by “Hannah Shah’. Like Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s “Infidel”, except that the protagonist – raised in a strict Muslim environment, but then gradually awakening and finally realising she wanted to *leave* Islam – was born and brought up within Western country…but deep within the Ummah. Her only ‘windows’ on the world outside were British kiddie TV and then her school (because at the time, there was no Muslim-run Muslim-only school to send her to). She was hideously – incestuously – abused as a child, but somehow hung onto her sanity and her dreams of happiness and, when big enough strong enough and smart enough, as a teenager, made her break. She was lucky; she got away and lucked out with a non-Islamic foster carer…who was a church-going Christian. Hannah, who had somehow managed to eavesdrop on Bible stories told by the local rector during RE at her school and had been intrigued, decided to go to church…She became a Christian. And she met the nice English church-going Christian, who is now her husband, during Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve. Now *there*’s* a storyline for a Thoroughly-Modern-Britain Christmas romcom… (Except that the enormous shadow hanging over her is the Islamic apostasy law…when her father the imam found out she’d converted to Christianity he sent a mob of men with axes to attack the house where she was staying at the time). The broader point – it would be good if some brave indie film-makers were to start telling stories like *this*. Inspired by the *real* stories of *real* people. They’re dramatic, they’re positive, they’re inspiring. But, done right, they would also function to *inform* about the nature of the enemy that we face …just like the best films made during the Cold War, or during WWII.
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No, it would incite mob stupidity…for once can we try to avoid baser feel good instincts and maybe not act like animals? Give ppl enough rope and the dumb fucks that force us to share sapien sapien classification will hang themselves….no need for instinctive bullshit
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Well I am glad to see people are discussing this.I am voting Out of the EU if only to prevent molestation of our females by archaic attitude migrants.
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Good for you. I’m also voting out. The EU = chaos.
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