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Utopian politics is a dangerous game to join. The promise of paradise evaporates judgement and allows for great and historic follies.
Does a union of the Anglosphere belong to the realm of hopeless, dangerous utopias? I’m not sure.
I’ve made no secret on this site of my intense desire to move to the United States, nor of my admiration and envy for Australia, Canada and New Zealand; states with cleaner, more positive cultures than the one into which I was born. And so this idea, brought to fruition, would provide me with a liberty I have longed for since childhood.
And there is currently a petition, already in receipt of thousands of signatures, arguing for complete, visa-less travel between the nations of the English-speaking world. If successful, the idea would permit an American to move to Britain without legal trials and vice versa. Similarly, a Canadian, fed up with the biting of native wind, could up sticks and relocate to Australia without having to make any of the tortuous applications currently needed.
It sounds beautiful doesn’t it? Given the power to make law out of it, I would sign and stamp the bill in a heartbeat. But that doesn’t mean there wouldn’t be objections.
I think some might (rightly) perceive the British as getting by far the best deal out of the policy. Why indeed should Britain be allowed to attach its rickety old caravan to the healthy and exuberant sports-cars of younger nations? That can only be answered by the presence or absence of solidarity.
On top of this, Australians in particular might be aggrieved by the influx of millions of new citizens, robbing their country of its prized (and environmentally advantageous) airiness. A similar snobbery might also break out in Canada over the influx of overly-religious, gun-wielding Americans.
Still, I would argue that the benefits of such a policy would ultimately outweigh the downsides. We are very similar cultures after all, and could bring together very synergistic gifts. The English, with our humour and literary flair; the Americans with their dynamism and positivity; the Canadians with their laid-back civility; and the Australians and New Zealanders with their love of alcohol and hatred of political correctness.
I say go for it. But then I would say that, wouldn’t I…
D, LDN.
The problem has never been free movement between countries at the same prosperity levels with the same western democratic cultures and liberal civilisation. The problem has been in Europe of eastern European nations like Romania flooding Britain. And to say nothing of developing nations and Islamic nations who flood our society and would drown it if they could. Free movement between broadly similarly prosperous western societies is balanced and reciprocal and enriching. I would be in favour of leaving the European Union, that sinister cabal that wanted for so long to bring Turkey into the fold, which would be the death of European civilisation, and begin with complete free movement with Australia and New Zealand to begin with, and eventually Canada too. The USA I’m not sure of yet.
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I agree about Romania (but then Romanian immigration includes Roma, who are not ‘Romanian’ in the traditional sense of the term). I think the issue of Turkey has by-itself killed the idea of limitless EU expansion.
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Why not the USA?
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We are rather “privileged” in Australia – it has been my home away from home for almost 55 years and wouldn’t swap it “for quids” 🙂 I like the idea of freedom of movement/living between the English speaking countries, i.e. countries with English as official language… Australia & New Zealand have enjoyed such mutual freedom and it has worked well both ways…yep, political correctness annoys 😀
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I’ve never been to Australia, but I imagine it to be a warmer, cleaner and more relaxed version of Britain. Perhaps this is correct, perhaps not. Either way, I envy you who have citizenship there. Britain is very stuck in the past. I’m not really a fan of traditionalism and ritual. We should be modernising this place, building new cities and embracing the 21st century.
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Yes more relaxed than Britain, definitely but still feeling very close and fondly towards Britain although Australia has developed a personality of its own. Often I think, we are privileged here – so much beauty and opportunity – still.
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Indeed. A lot of English people are desperate to emigrate over there. If freedom of movement is ever granted, be prepared for a flood.
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The English speaking world does not only include WASP countries but nations like Nigeria, Uganda or Zimbabwe.
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Indeed, I really mean those countries with Anglo-Saxon culture.
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Well my friend, you already have the Commonwealth, good luck to reorganize this around purely Anglo countries…It sounds neat as an idea but the EU/ other organisms would not be happy….
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I couldn’t care less what Junker and his ilk think. Though the idea behind the EU is not completely crazy, its current executives certainly are.
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The U.S. is quickly becoming less Anglo and more creolized by its links to Latin America and Asia. That creolization has always characterized the U.S. and I think that puts us in a class of our own within the Anglosphere. Then there’s that sticky bit about the royals. Just as Argentines may be Spanish speaking Italians, Germans, etc., Americans are now (for a good part) English speaking Latinos and Asians. The Anglo Saxon is on the decline but the language will remain and language does have a profound effect on the culture. We are still part of the Anglosphere… for now.
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True. America should be controlling its borders far more rigorously. Then again, Latinos seem infinitely preferable to Muslims. I would happily live in a part-Hispanified America, as long as the constitution still remained to guarantee my freedom.
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Freedom of movement is already available to Australians and New Zealanders between each other’s countries. Over the past couple of decades the rules have become tighter (welfare is not reciprocal for example) but the benefits of the system are still great.
Currently there remains other short term visa privileges for youth between most countries in the Commonwealth Anglo-sphere: under the guise of working holiday visas. The cross cultural benefits of these schemes have benefited Au, UK, NZ, Canada for decades.
Here in Australia the same rules apply for all takers of working holiday visas including most EU nations (that aren’t necessarily English speaking). We host just as many French, Germans, Swedes, Irish, Italians as Britons. If they want to stay a second year, one must undertake rural work (farm work for 90 days) for an additional year. It helps the rural sector attract workers in roles that are hard to fill.
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We might just be bitter that the UK is so lax compared to Australia. I live in an area of London called Putney and I meet Aussies everywhere. They come over on holiday visas and just stay for as long as they want. I don’t mind that at all, but I’m not sure it would permitted the other way around.
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I live in a regional coastal area in Australia, there are very many English people here too. Most of them seem to have migrated through legitimate channels – they are usually working-age, with children.
Putney must be the new Earls Court…I remember being sure that I did not want to live in Earls Court (as a backpacker 20 years ago) as there were too many Australians there, and I have come half way around the world to see something else.
Funny how we notice the “other” isn’t it.
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Earls Court is a great area. Lots of different nationalities but very few Muslims. I lived there for a short while.
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If you wanted to see English people, you’d be better off going somewhere like Oxfordshire or Somerset.
Somerset is particularly beautiful.
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Looks like it’s all changing at least for the Australians heading over to old Blighty – just read this in today’s paper:
http://m.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/britain-tightens-rules-for-working-holiday-aussies/story-fn59nm2j-1227395395766
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Canada is a politically-correct hellhole. Our current Prime Minister, whom I strongly respect, holds his office because of a quirk in our electoral system. As good as our government is, our voters are short-sighted, selfish, fashionably-ideological dullards.
They want free stuff from the government, no tax increases, throw open immigration to let in a third of the planet if they could, yet want to maintain environmental cred with local-grown small town authentic living, even in Tornoto.
These idiots wouldn’t recognize cognitive dissonance if it pissed on their leg.
We are also not genuinely part of the Anglosphere, as long as we have between a fifth and a quarter of our population born and raise speaking, and thinking in French. They don’t even use Common Law, but rather a version of the Napoleonic Code… Though they are the best at protecting their culture, so I’ll give ’em that.
Anyways; be careful what you wish for DTMW. I would skedaddle out of Canada in a heartbeat if I could.
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Really? I’d love to live in Canada. Perhaps it’s a case of the grass always being greener…
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