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The 2015 general election result is in. Out of the three possibilities – great, OK or terrible – the ball has slipped into the second groove. We have an OK regime, a tolerable one, not especially healthy and not particularly self-destructive.
The Liberal Democrats have been shot to pieces and will find it difficult to survive. The Labour Party is far from dead, and will soon reinvigorate itself with younger generation of advocates (the favourite for leadership being, of course, the ‘British Obama’).
The UKIP grenade, much hyped as being nuclear in its fallout, went off with a silent puff. Farage has been fatally embarrassed. The faces of Middle England are shiny with tears. Chinks of hope for the future have closed.
The Islamisation process ongoing in parts of Britain has not been altered one bit by the result. It would have been quicker under the Labour party, and slower under UKIP. The Tories won’t interfere with it one bit.
That’s about all that can be said.
D, LDN.
Defend the Modern World 
The problem now is that the resistance to the recent Tory assaults on free speech has been greatly weakened. The likelihood that something like this attempt to strangle speakers at universities will become law are much larger:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11380402/Former-spy-chief-says-new-terror-measures-jeopardise-free-speech.html
I doubt somehow that all criticism of Islam will be completely silenced in the UK, but I fear Tory policies over the next 5 years will have a chilling effect on free speech. We must lobby our MPs to stir their consciences against this threat.
They may succeed in silencing the most publicly outspoken preachers of Islamic hatred, and who knows this might even reduce terrorism in the shorter term. But what goes on behind close doors in mosques (as revealed in channel 4’s ‘Undercover Mosque’) will no doubt continue. If they try to arrest speakers at mosques they can expect a backlash, so I doubt they will attempt this. In any case some of the speakers are from Saudi Arabia, its not really likely they will try and interfere with them. So, really all these policies will do is sweep the truth under the carpet, and Islamic influence will, as you say, continue unabated, allowing much larger problems to occur in the future.
Cameron has also pledged again not to even put a limit on child benefits to 2 children, so we are continuing to fund the destruction of our own society through taxation.
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I don’t trust Cameron on Islam. Other than that, he’s a million times preferable to Labour candidates.
I agree that lobbying, especially petitioning, is the best way forward for now. I should get around trying to start a petition myself, but I’ve been quite lazy in that respect. As long as it’s worded carefully, a petition can gather thousands of signatures virtually overnight.
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UKIP won 12.5% of the votes, twice the votes the SNP managed to get.
As a proportion of votes, UKIP is the third largest party in the UK.
And, I think the real proportion is potentially higher, because, I read that in many constituencies, UKIP supporters voted conservative to keep Labour out of power.
Nigel Farage should not lose heart. He should pick-up the pieces and run again. The U.K needs him.
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Farage’s resignation has been rejected now. He’s agreed to stay on.
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The only alternative to our voting system is PR (as Farage is now arguing for). I’m not sure that would be wise. Islamist parties would be more likely to gain power under that system.
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Peter Hitchens makes a convince case for the present FPTP system. I agree with him.
Proportional Representation has its own undeniable problems. I’m glad that we in India too followed the British FPTP system. http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/05/on-legitimacy-and-saving-fptp.html
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My reservation is that one day an Islamist party might stand and gather all the Muslim votes, thereby securing (under PR) a bloc of MPs. That would be a calamity. The BNP and other anti-Semitic crackpots would also do better. FPTP is imperfect but the best available model.
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One must also look at the countries currently with PR. In Sweden, the political system is chaotic and inefficient. Italy is not much better.
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Yes, I essentially agree with what you say. I voted UKIP but doubted that they would make much headway. Even so, the routing of Labour under ‘Red Ed’ Miliband was hugely satisfying. As was the spectacle of Polly Toynbee and Kevin McGuire frothing with rage. According to Rod Liddle Ed Miliband was threatening to make ‘Islamophobia’ a criminal offence. He would have been a disastrous PM.
Mixed feelings about PR. It’s purest form is in Israel, but the result there is a badly fragemented political system. It has taken Benjamin Netanyahu ages to stitch together a coalition. Maybe a German version, where parties with less than 5% of the vote don’t get any MP’s. FPTP at least produces stable government but it also means that in most constituencies, at least in England, the local result is a formality, which is dispiriting to many voters.
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Indeed. The constituency where my parents live has been Conservative for over fifty years. Voting any other way is pointless there. That doesn’t seem like democracy to me. Nevertheless, PR is far too chaotic.
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