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This Christmas, I was watching television with my family – you can picture the scene; 5 people weighed down by food and boredom, surrounded by ripped up wrapping paper and empty wine bottles – when a celebrity I have always disliked came on the screen. “Urghh, I hate that woman” I muttered, exhaling sharply, to which my darling 8yr old niece immediately turned around to state: “David! Hate is a naughty word.”
I took her criticism on board and dutifully lowered my head, to which she smiled sadistically (she wants to be a teacher when she grows up). I also began to think seriously about what she said. I think it’s great that her teachers (or perhaps my sister) have taught her that ‘hate’ is too heavy a word to throw lightly around, because that’s certainly true.
It’s not something one likes to feel either. Hatred degrades the soul of the person who feels it, just like a grudge or a fit of jealousy. But are there occasions (however rare) when hatred is the right thing to feel? I think so.
I get rather tired of hearing the following mantra: “I hate Islam. I don’t hate Muslims”. Even though it’s a good-natured thought and in some cases might align with a kind of accuracy (not all Muslims are evil) it seems to me a disguised form of evasion. I absolutely do hate Muslims. Not all of them, I concede, but a hefty portion.
I hate those Muslims who wish me harm, or who would impose a way of life on me that I do not desire. I hate those who would excuse acts of terrorism against civilised people. I hate those who believe women should be told what to do by men. I hate those who indoctrinate, imprison and propagandise. Taken together, I think this means I hate a majority of Muslims.
Does it make me bad? I’m not sure. It depends on who is holding the scales of right and wrong. Should I have them in my possession, I would argue that my feelings are natural and inevitable, even if they sound extreme and irrational. I’d also challenge my interrogators to propose a different emotion when confronted with the vision of a stoned rape victim.
Hmm, that’s an interesting perspective. I think it’s more along the lines of self righteous anger or a thirst for justice, or simply some rather logical powers of discernment.
Hatred is actually an intense and somewhat irrational dislike for someone. In the case of people wanting to kill you, it’s not irrational to respond with some anger. So in that context I’m really careful with the word hate. For the most part if I have an extreme aversion towards something or someone it’s going to be rational and rather reason based, therefore not hate.
Defend the Modern World said:
Self-righteous anger is an interesting alternative. I don’t think it adequately sums up the dislike I feel for them though. I don’t just disapprove.
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“Does it make me bad? I’m not sure.”
The Buddha, a historical religious personage I have enormous respect for, for his insight into human nature, says that Hate(or anger) and Fear are closely entwined. There is no anger or hate without fear. Meditate on it and I think that you’ll agree.
“Aversion in Buddhist psychology is quite interesting, because it’s both anger and fear. Anger and fear are considered in many ways to be the same mind state, just in different forms. Anger is the outflowing, expressive energized form and fear is the held in, frozen, imploding form.”
You have a (legitimate & reasonable) fear that the West, as we know it, with its freedoms and its prosperity, born out of such freedoms, are in grave danger of being dismantled and destroyed. Your experiences with fundamentalist Muslims has even shown you, what could happen in the future, if Muslims have more political power due to their growing numbers in the West.
And, you care for your country and your society and you care for the world at large. If you did not care, you wouldn’t be afraid of what, in your very reasonable view, of what is coming.
Yet, I feel, that hate is not how you deal with this. Hate destroys one from the inside. It is corrosive. I would find ways inside me to not have fear and thus not to have hate.
(For example, the allies fought against the Germans and the Japanese, but did not fundamental hate them as a people, only their ideologies. If they had fought the war with hatred, Europe and East Asia would have still been quite unstable than what it is now)
A courageous and commendably honest article, with which I resoundingly agree. Menachem Begin took the view that it was necessary to hate those against whom one was waging war, settting himself against those Israelis who believed that they should try not to hate the Arabs even though they were at war with many of them…
I think that Islam is a force for evil in the world, a mortal threat to the civilisation that I hold dear. Yes, there are nice Muslims, but the fact is that their religion is a menace. If there should be a civil war in Europe to preserve our civilisation from this menace then the fact that some Muslims are nice people will not stop me from supporting whatever measures are necessary to defeat this mortal threat, however bloody those measures may turn out to be.
Defend the Modern World said:
Well, Ali Sina suggests a practical (impractical or impossible, according to others) way out: A Great Apostasy.
For this project to even have a chance of success is to speak the Truth.
“The Dilemma of Islamic Terrorism”
Defend the Modern World said:
I think ISIS might persuade those Muslims who are on the fence to hop over onto the right side. I also think that as Islamophobia heats up in Europe, defections will become more commonplace.