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The descent of ethnic Europeans into panda-like sterility isn’t something which merits further analysis. We know the facts well enough. Numbers and statistics can be summoned quickly from the internet. Few measures can now be implemented to reverse the decline, and no energy is apparent to mount an effort anyway.
What can still be said of value then, must leave the domain of facts and enter the zone of speculation. Let’s construct (for the sake of amusement) a dystopia and see what options will be available to liberal Europeans (and by this I include all European-born non-Muslims), in the projected near-future.
Position your imagination the following way: It is 2030. London by this time is 60% Islamic and riddled with all the ‘enrichments’ of the faithful. Asian populations formerly limited to East London now stretch imperiously into Essex and Kent. Those believers based in Croydon are claiming ground southwards into rural Surrey and Sussex.
White refugees from most of the English inner-cities are moving en masse to old-age retirement colonies along the southern coastline. Younger White families are moving to rural Wales and Cumbria.
In America, the levers of cultural and political power lie firmly in the hands of an African-Hispanic coalition. Elderly Whites are dying off in their tens of thousands. Increasing temperatures and rates of crime make urban environments impossible terrain for the over fifties, meaning that every city of national importance is now under minority rule.
Every week a new ‘White terrorist’ is arrested after plotting gun rampages against immigrant communities. Al-Qaeda is a distant memory. White men over fifty are now public enemy number one.
As all media bends eventually to the force of money, the post-Murdoch Fox News Network, once so firmly allied to the White male, now deals only in racially neutral issues like abortion and local government. Most of its presenters are Hispanic.
Mexicans cross the Southern border at their leisure, while in the north, Canada beefs up its own border security, concerned at the illegal entry of American Whites.
The population of Russia is significantly smaller than what it was in the year 2000. One third of Russia’s population is now Islamic, and Muslims enjoy increasing influence upon its national and foreign policy…..
There. That should cheer you up.
I’m afraid that not one of these dystopian predictions is infeasible. Indeed, the worst-case-scenarios of experts far exceed the ideas above. Consequently, it is well worth asking the question sooner rather than later:
What will you do in such a world? Where will you go?
A bizarre consensus has developed on the internet (especially in the context of the Islamisation of Europe) according to which the only sanctuary in which Western Civilization can survive the coming upheaval, is not to be found in Europe, Asia, or North America… but Australasia.
Time and time again when chatting to like-minded people on Facebook, I find the closing comment on a long thread to be a variant of the following: “Well, whatever happens. There’s always Australia. We can ultimately move there.”
Perhaps it’s not intended as seriously as I take it, but this nevertheless seems a very depressing strain of defeatism. Australia is a beautiful country, wonderfully diverse (and I use that word in its original naturalist sense), teeming with optimistic, talented and pleasant people. But is that really the answer?
It seems, for thousands of Brits, that yes it is. Increasing numbers of English, Scottish and Welsh families are choosing to expose themselves to the notoriously stringent examinations of the Australian Immigration Board every year, and that number is projected to climb consistently for the foreseeable future.
Other than Australia, some people predict an exodus of Europeans to Canada: an even vaster landmass, and one with a more European climate. Others suggest New Zealand. Some even point to the vast ice-fields of Greenland.
Personally, I don’t believe that these are the natural options at all, or at any rate those which will be pursued by progressive youth when the time comes.
In 2030, I will be 46 years of age. Still a young-ish bloke then, with at least the physical and emotional fitness to leave a sinking ship. If the predictions of the great ‘Islamophobes’ (Mr Steyn, Ms Geller etc…) prove correct, and if the liberal West fails to mount an effective resistance in the meantime, my plan is to migrate to Latin America: the vastest cultural territory in the world to remain free of Islamisation, and one of the last and greatest hopes for the survival of European(ish) culture.
Still, maybe all this speculation is fanciful. Our elites might see the light sooner than we imagine. But when I hear that Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are being denied entry into my country on the grounds of ‘cultural cohesion’, and at the same time read reports of local soldiers not going out on their own at night to ‘avoid being beheaded’, I can’t help feeling we’re already too far down the road to hit reverse.
D, LDN.
As a white American of European ancestry, I am not optimistic but continue to fight. Australia has a Muslim problem too and it is becoming worse there under Guliard, Australia’s Obama. Canada has a major Muslim problem too but Harper gives me hope. I think there are areas of Latin America that may be a sanctuary for us, but we will never be a majority in any nation again. Even there, the Muslims are busy little bees. You got to give a hand to the Japanese. Even though their population is shrinking, it will survive, their culture, their identity will survive. They never bought into the diversity is strength, multiculturalism enriches us all propaganda. The ‘experts’ were predicting their collapse. They have their problems for sure, but the Japanese will survive and the decline in real numbers will level off. That is better than having your culture, your civilization wiped off the earth.
I have a feeling you’re correct about Japan. They have prioritized very wisely, and a shrinking population is a good thing in a small country. In fact a shrinking of the European population would be a good thing in some cases. It’s only because of the Muslim invasion that demographic issues matter at all.
Thankfully Ms Gillard is no longer in charge as of today. : )
Yes I read that. Ruud is not any better. My hope is that he is defeated in the cpcoming elections.
Your name is Mohammed – are you a troll by any chance?
“I’m afraid that not one of these dystopian predictions is infeasible. Indeed, the worst-case-scenarios of experts far exceed the ideas above.”
Could you show experts forecasting that in 2030 “The population of Russia is half of what it was in the year 2000” and “One third of Russia [population is] Islamic”?
14% of Russians are currently Muslim. This can be found out via google. I’m on my phone now, but I can send links. There are no definite figures for the future make-up of Russia and I was clear that this is speculation. Given that most of Russia’s population growth is from the ‘Caucasus’ region (largely comprised of Muslims), a third in 2030 seems intuitively very reasonable, especially given the well-documented decline of North-West (‘European’) Russians.
As for the ‘Population of Russia is…” fact, my error, I misread an article which posits the Russian population to halve by 2050. I shall go back and correct it now.
“14% of Russians are currently Muslim.”
It vary among sources. For example, http://www.pewforum.org/future-of-the-global-muslim-population-russia.aspx claim 11.7% in 2010 (and forecast 14.4% in 2030).
“There are no definite figures for the future make-up of Russia and I was clear that this is speculation.”
Actually, you wrote that “not one of these dystopian predictions is infeasible. Indeed, the worst-case-scenarios of experts far exceed the ideas above.”
“Given that most of Russia’s population growth is those from the ‘Caucasus’ region (largely comprised of Muslims), a third in 2030 seems intuitively very reasonable, especially given the well-documented decline of North-West (‘European’) Russians.”
I don’t know what you are talking about.
“As for the ‘Population of Russia is…” fact, my error, I misread an article which posits the Russian population to halve by 2050. I shall go back and correct it now.”
Thank you. That’s better now.
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Could you show experts forecasting that in 2030 “One third of Russia [population is] Islamic”?
That all depends what you mean by ‘experts’. There is a great diversity of opinion on this matter. I would recommend for a start books such as “The Death of the West” by Pat Buchanan.
You must understand that the growth of ‘Russian’ Muslims may not be driven by ‘natural increase’ alone. As the non-Muslim population ages and begins to die, cheap labour will be imported from the Caucasus. Given that the question of how much labour will be imported is dependent on the policies of the Russian government from now until 2030, no-one can make concrete predictions. The ‘worst case scenario’ is far more than a third. It depends upon the policies of Moscow.
“Paul Goble, an expert on minorities in the former Soviet Union….
‘Within most of our lifetimes the Russian Federation, assuming it stays within current borders, will be a Muslim country. That is it will have a Muslim majority and even before that the growing number of people of Muslim background in Russia will have a profound impact on Russian foreign policy. The assumption in Western Europe or the United States that Moscow is part of the European concert of powers is no longer valid. … The Muslim growth rate, since 1989, is between 40 and 50 percent, depending on ethnic groups. Most of that is in the Caucuses or from immigration from Central Asia or Azerbaijan.’
Goble notes the exponential growth in Islam since the demise of the Soviet Union: Russia had about 300 mosques in 1991 and now there are at least 8,000, about half of which were built with money from abroad, especially from Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia. There were no Islamic religious schools in 1991 and today there are between 50 and 60, teaching as many as 50,000 students. The number of Russians going on the hajj each year, has jumped from 40 in 1991 to 13,500 in 2005. He quotes a Russian commentator predicting that within the next several decades there will be a mosque on Red Square.”
– http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/08/predicting-a-majority-muslim-russia
Indeed, it depends of the meaning of “experts”. This is an other motive that you tell who you read or heard forecasting that in 2030 “One third of Russia [population is] Islamic”. If you wrote “According to expert Pat Buchanan…”, a reader may disagree that Pat Buchanan is an expert in the field, but at least this reader would know who your source is.
Please notice that, if Paul Goble’s 2006 forecast depend of premise that “the Chechen and Ingush communities are averaging 10 children per woman”, then it is not accurate since fertility rate in Chechnya and Ingushetia are lower than 4 since 1999 according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#Total_fertility_rates .
I should just add that I’m not a fan of Pat Buchanan. It’s just his book “Death of the West” is a good source of statistics.
As a Londoner who has already jumped from the sinking ship, I can heartily recommend Latin America to you. I chose the Yucatan peninsula in southwest Mexico which proved to be a sound decision, but there are other excellent options, most notably in Chile. My only qualification is that you don’t wait till 2030. By then all the best properties in Latin America will have been snatched up by others who came here before you and the prices will have risen. Also, you probably won’t be able to sell your property in the UK for very much and will probably have to leave a lot of your belongings behind as you ‘flee’ the country. If you’d like to know more about the Yucatan, please feel free to ask!
That sounds like a great place to live. You were very wise. Mexico is a beautiful prospect viewed from grimy, overcrowded London. My only hesitation with Mexico specifically is the drug-war problem. Is that only active on the US border or do you find it to be a violent place where you are?
Chile is another good idea. Argentina also seems to have a very European-esque culture. I certainly plan to leave Britain sooner if the opportunity arises.
The drug war is a major factor in the north but the Yucatan is one of the safest places in the world to live. It’s almost a separate country when it comes to things like crime. Also, the land is cheap, there’s plenty of opportunity, it has 250-odd miles of Caribbean coast, a rich cultural history (Maya & Spanish) and is well-located with regard to the rest of the world when compared to places like Chile. Also, they welcome foreigners and documentation is relatively straightforward. Next time you’re wondering where to go on holiday, try Cancun and check the place out for yourself. I’d be happy to show you round.
Thanks, I’ll try and read up on it.
Why are you talking about leaving your ancestral home? You flee an ‘invading force’ and you simply get labelled a coward…stand up for what is yours. Simple.
To be honest, it’s only the people that matter to me and the people are leaving in droves. I don’t feel a sentimental attachment to the land. British culture is what matters and it’s going to die as this mass emigration continues. Without that culture, there is no Britain. Who’d want to live in a Sharia Britain?
You’re wrong on your assessment of over 50s in the U.S. It isn’t that they are fleeing the urban areas — just the opposite. They are fleeing the rural “retirement” colonies and moving to or staying put in urban areas. It is rural America is emptying out. Over 50s need to continue working and jobs are in urban areas not in “the sticks”. Medical care is also in urban areas not in the outlying countryside or the mountains in Montana. As far as minority rule in urban areas, I don’t know. Los Angeles just replaced a Latino mayor with a white, suburban raised man. I’m not filled with optimism but I think you’re jumping the gun as far as the U.S. is concerned. Cities like Detroit are finished, and there is no doubt that all of the US cities are in big trouble financially but I’m not ready to throw in the towel just yet. If you want to concentrate on bad news, I just saw a video of the police arresting the head of the EDL for walking in a Muslim neighborhood. An accompanying video from 2009 showed the London police clearly on the run and the Muslims chasing them and calling them cowards (which they clearly were). All I could think was that I was watching Western societies in Europe willingly and enthusiastically surrendering to barbarians. It made me sick. But the situation in the U.S. is not as dire — at least not yet. The British need to take responsibility for this insanity. It couldn’t happen without their approval and consent. Watch the videos on fights started by Muslim gangs in British restaurants and bars — the white, Christian Brits sit there and do nothing while their buddies get pummeled.
The ‘retirement colonies’ referenced were places in Britain like Eastbourne and Cornwall. Perhaps it’s more a British phenomenon than a universal one. I’m glad Americans aren’t ready to throw in the towel just yet.
And I agree that the video of police fleeing Muslims is disgraceful. Americans must think we’re crazy.
I don’t know about other Americans but, speaking for myself, I was stunned. WHY? And the videos of fights breaking out in bars and restaurants, fights started by Muslim gangs beating on an individual Brit and the other Brits sitting there watching, DOING NOTHING to intervene or to stop it is sheer insanity. The Brits look bored — like it’s an everyday occurrence – no big deal. You are handing over your country to barbarians with not a bit of resistence. WHY? Only the EDL fights back, and they are demonized for doing so. You know what? The EDL are the English equivalent of the Israeli “Settlers.” And when they go down, guess who is next in line? The white urban professionals.
I should also clarify that i don’t view the increase in Hispanics as a negative phenomenon. My worry is that America will become more divided.
Personally, I wish that every young Brit and American who is worried about this problem would find a spouse and have lots of babies, not flee. There are pockets of these societies that are re-focusing on childbearing — at church last Sunday I saw families with 5 and 6 children apiece — and It would be good if that movement grows. Where there’s life, there’s hope, but if there is no next generation, then truly there’s nothing that can be done. I’m now too old to act on my own advice, but I hope I’ll eventually find some way to be helpful to some younger people who are raising the next generation. (There are a lot of middle-aged people who didn’t think about these things when we were younger; it seems as if there ought to be some way we could make ourselves useful nonetheless. In the heavily Jewish neighborhoods of New York I’ve seen stores that sell groceries and other items at lower prices for large families; I don’t know if the community takes up collections to help fund that or what. But that’s the kind of thing I mean — there might be ways that childless members of the community could help those who take on the job of raising a large brood.)
I agree. I think that maybe Mormons have the right idea about large families. If you look at the birthrate figures for Western Europe, it’s depressing stuff. Almost all of the demographic increase in the last few years has been down to Somalis and Poles. While there’s nothing wrong with Polish migrants, most of them go back to Poland when they have made enough money, which will leave the Christian/Muslim ratio even worse than before they came. Most new Churches are specifically constructed for Polish congregations.
As to how we revive British fertility, I would agree that subsidy and financial inducement is the way forward. In Russia, the government awards huge advantages (and even medals) to Women who have large families.
And every Western country could learn a thing or two from Jews. Jewish communal spirit is very much lacking in other populations.
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